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translations:zehn_orks [2022/05/21 22:28] – [Translation into Nûrlâm] morgothtranslations:zehn_orks [2025/10/11 17:46] (current) – [Gloss and Back translation] morgoth
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 | Fünf Orks sennen wir gewesen   | We've been five orcs | | Fünf Orks sennen wir gewesen   | We've been five orcs |
-| Haben wir getrunken eigen Bier | We have drunken our own beer |+| Haben wir getrunken eigen Bier | We have drunk our own beer |
 | Eins war mit Glykol gepanscht  | One was adulterated with glycol | | Eins war mit Glykol gepanscht  | One was adulterated with glycol |
 | Sennen wir geblieben vier      | Let's stay four | | Sennen wir geblieben vier      | Let's stay four |
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 | //[Chorus x2]// | //[Chorus x2]// | | //[Chorus x2]// | //[Chorus x2]// |
  
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 ===== Translation into Nûrlâm ===== ===== Translation into Nûrlâm =====
 For the sake of meter, Nûrlâm version is translated "Nuk honk uruk" ("Ten Orc-brothers"). It hardly could be sung exactly to Die Streuner's song without some melody alternation. Also some causes of death and numbers were swapped for better rhyme (Dwarf and Ent encounter). Broomstick ride ended with drowning in a lake instead of crashing into the wall, other lines were re-phrased a little less. The joke in the last line wasn't preserved as "fuck" and "female" ("Fick" & "Frau" in German) do not start with the same letter in Nûrlâm. "Socks/stockings" was translated as "foot-wrap". "Glycol" was replaced "Glu kulâ..." (literally translated as "Piss is...", also wrong tense here -- Present instead of Past). Almost all 3rd person verb endings were dropped, many clitic postpositions became prepositions.  For the sake of meter, Nûrlâm version is translated "Nuk honk uruk" ("Ten Orc-brothers"). It hardly could be sung exactly to Die Streuner's song without some melody alternation. Also some causes of death and numbers were swapped for better rhyme (Dwarf and Ent encounter). Broomstick ride ended with drowning in a lake instead of crashing into the wall, other lines were re-phrased a little less. The joke in the last line wasn't preserved as "fuck" and "female" ("Fick" & "Frau" in German) do not start with the same letter in Nûrlâm. "Socks/stockings" was translated as "foot-wrap". "Glycol" was replaced "Glu kulâ..." (literally translated as "Piss is...", also wrong tense here -- Present instead of Past). Almost all 3rd person verb endings were dropped, many clitic postpositions became prepositions. 
  
-==== Meter comparison ==== +==== The Result ==== 
-^ Version       ^  Line length  ^^^^^^^^ +  Nuk honk uruk dak kuz 
-^ :::           ^  Stance  ^^^^  Chorus  ^^^^ +  Daknarirnuz or kîf 
-^ :::           ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^ +  Dakhoguz golug-hai 
-^ Zehn Orks     |  8  |  8--12  |  7--11  |  7--8  |  7  |  5  |  6  |  5  | +  Agh dakirnuz krith 
-^ Tsen Brider   |  9  |  8  |  8  |  7  |  7  |  5  |  8  |  5  | +   
-^ Nuk Honk Uruk |  6  |  6--9  |  5--8  |  5  |  6  |  6  |  6  |  5  |+  Krith honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Dakgrishuz orn pirishi 
 +  Orn thakuzûk' ornogsi 
 +  Agh dakirnuz skri 
 +   
 +  [Chorus:] 
 +  Grishnâkh sha za bha drang 
 +  Agh Zorg sha smaulûrz lag 
 +  Gaskat, akrat, fofat 
 +  Zi narash hazdat 
 +  Oi-oi-oi-oi-oi, oi-oi-oi-oi-oi 
 +  Gaskat, akrat, fofat 
 +  Zi narash hazdat 
 +   
 +  Skri honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Dakirmuz htolut tarkniz 
 +  Ash norsi thakuzûk' 
 +  Agh dakirnuz udug 
 +   
 +  Udug honk ur'k dak kuz 
 +  Dakirmuz bamut bhîgholf kûrzhob 
 +  Ash dulâkuzâ tala rink 
 +  Agh dakirnuz ink 
 +   
 +  [Chorus] 
 +   
 +  Ink honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Dak gaiguz thul-fraghum ob dak 
 +  Ash narzûpâkuz' 
 +  Agh dakirnuz krâk 
 +   
 +  Krâk honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Dakshoguz hîmb îmob 
 +  Glu kulâ or ash kralt 
 +  Agh dakirnuz hant 
 +   
 +  [Chorus] 
 +   
 +  Hant honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Daklaluz gazatûr 
 +  Ta ûsuz hok dakob fik 
 +  Agh dakirnuz krig 
 +   
 +  Krig honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Dak gimbuz mûd nîr fird 
 +  Lûg krankniz tuduzul' 
 +  Agh dakirnuz krul 
 +   
 +  [Chorus] 
 +   
 +  Krul honk uruk dak kuz 
 +  Dakbrusuz throkhat narash 
 +  Amil honkdab thuloruz' 
 +  Da irnuz ash 
 +   
 +  Ashûk uruk dakuz 
 +  Da irmuz kruskâtut honk isk 
 +  Amilah dasog 
 +  Ash nîr firniz 
 +   
 +  [Chorus x2]
  
-==== The result ====+==== Gloss and Back translation ====
 ^ Nûrlâm ^ Gloss ^ Translation back ^ ^ Nûrlâm ^ Gloss ^ Translation back ^
 | **NUK HONK URUK** | Ten brother orc | **TEN ORC-BROTHERS** | | **NUK HONK URUK** | Ten brother orc | **TEN ORC-BROTHERS** |
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 | Hant honk uruk dak kuz | Four brother orc we be.PST   | Four orc-brothers we were | | Hant honk uruk dak kuz | Four brother orc we be.PST   | Four orc-brothers we were |
 | Daklaluz gazatûr       | 3PL=laugh-PST dwarf=DAT      | We have laughed at the dwarf | | Daklaluz gazatûr       | 3PL=laugh-PST dwarf=DAT      | We have laughed at the dwarf |
-| Ta ûsuz hok dakob fik  | He think-PST joke we=GEN bad | He thought our jokes we bad |+| Ta ûsuz hok dakob fik  | He think-PST joke we=GEN bad | He thought our jokes were bad |
 | Agh dakirnuz krig      | And 3PL=stay-PST three       | And we stayed three | | Agh dakirnuz krig      | And 3PL=stay-PST three       | And we stayed three |
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 | Ashûk uruk dakuz            | One=all orc 1SG=be.PST | I was a lonely orc | | Ashûk uruk dakuz            | One=all orc 1SG=be.PST | I was a lonely orc |
 | Da irmuz kruskâtut honk isk | I want-PST back=come-INF brother other | I wanted other brothers back | | Da irmuz kruskâtut honk isk | I want-PST back=come-INF brother other | I wanted other brothers back |
-| Amilah dasog                | REL-time-ELA 1SG-seek  | Since then I'm seeking |+| Amilah dasog                | REL-time-ELA 1SG-seek  | Since then I'm looking |
 | Ash nîr firniz              | One good wife          | For a nice wife | | Ash nîr firniz              | One good wife          | For a nice wife |
 | || | ||
 | //[Chorus x2]// | | | | //[Chorus x2]// | | |
 +
 +==== Meter comparison ====
 +^ Version       ^  Line length  ^^^^^^^^
 +^ :::           ^  Stance  ^^^^  Chorus  ^^^^
 +^ :::           ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^
 +^ Zehn Orks     |  8  |  8--12  |  7--11  |  7--8  |  7  |  5  |  6  |  5  |
 +^ Tsen Brider   |  9  |  8  |  8  |  7  |  7  |  5  |  8  |  5  |
 +^ Nuk Honk Uruk |  6  |  6--9  |  5--8  |  5  |  6  |  6  |  6  |  5  |
  
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