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--- translations:zehn_orks [2022/05/21 21:53] – [The result] morgoth
+++ translations:zehn_orks [2025/10/11 17:46] (current) – [Gloss and Back translation] morgoth
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 ====== Zehn Orks ======
-**//"Zehn Orks"//** ("Ten Orcs") is the song by German medieval folk band "Die Streuner" from their album "Gebet Eines Spielmanns" (2002). The text is based on Jewish song "Tsen Brider" (Yiddish for "Ten Brothers") first documented in 1901 in St. Petersburg, Russia. However, it is also obviously based on 19th century American counting song "Ten Little Injuns" also known under politically incorrect title "Ten Little Niggers" which was used in the famous Agatha Christie's novel of the same name (1939, renamed to "And Then There Were None" one year later for publication in USA). One of the early 19th century Russian translations of original songs transformed it into "Ten Jews". US original has story told from 3rd person perspective, while Jewish one is sung from 1st person. Jewish versions vary from humorous to absolutely grim where all of brothers die in concetration camp, also they introduced chorus part sung by number of singers corresponding to remaining brothers.
+**//"Zehn Orks"//** ("Ten Orcs") is the song by German medieval folk band "Die Streuner" from their album "Gebet Eines Spielmanns" (2002). The text is based on Jewish song "Tsen Brider" (Yiddish for "Ten Brothers") first documented in 1901 in St. Petersburg, Russia. However, it is also obviously based on 19th century American counting song "Ten Little Injuns" also known under politically incorrect title "Ten Little Niggers" which was used in the famous Agatha Christie's novel of the same name (1939, renamed to "And Then There Were None" one year later for publication in USA). One of the early 19th century Russian translations of original songs transformed it into "Ten Jews". The US original has the story told from the 3<sup>rd</sup> person perspective, while Jewish one is sung from the 1<sup>st</sup> person. Jewish versions vary from humorous to absolutely grim where all of brothers die in concetration camp, also they introduced a chorus part sung by number of singers corresponding to remaining brothers.
 ===== Lyrics =====
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 | Fünf Orks sennen wir gewesen   | We've been five orcs |
-| Haben wir getrunken eigen Bier | We have drunken our own beer |
+| Haben wir getrunken eigen Bier | We have drunk our own beer |
 | Eins war mit Glykol gepanscht  | One was adulterated with glycol |
 | Sennen wir geblieben vier      | Let's stay four |
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 | //[Chorus x2]// | //[Chorus x2]// |
+-----------------------------------
 ===== Translation into Nûrlâm =====
-For the sake of meter, Nûrlâm version is translated "Nuk honk uruk" ("Ten Orc-brothers"). It cannot be sung exactly to Die Streuner's song. Also some causes of death and numbers were swapped for better rhyme.
+For the sake of meter, Nûrlâm version is translated "Nuk honk uruk" ("Ten Orc-brothers"). It hardly could be sung exactly to Die Streuner's song without some melody alternation. Also some causes of death and numbers were swapped for better rhyme (Dwarf and Ent encounter). Broomstick ride ended with drowning in a lake instead of crashing into the wall, other lines were re-phrased a little less. The joke in the last line wasn't preserved as "fuck" and "female" ("Fick" & "Frau" in German) do not start with the same letter in Nûrlâm. "Socks/stockings" was translated as "foot-wrap". "Glycol" was replaced "Glu kulâ..." (literally translated as "Piss is...", also wrong tense here -- Present instead of Past). Almost all 3rd person verb endings were dropped, many clitic postpositions became prepositions.
-==== Meter comparison ====
-^ Version       ^  Line length  ^^^^^^^^
+==== The Result ====
-^ :::           ^  Stance  ^^^^  Chorus  ^^^^
+  Nuk honk uruk dak kuz
-^ :::           ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^
+  Daknarirnuz or kîf
-^ Zehn Orks     |  8  |  8--12  |  7--11  |  7--8  |  7  |  5  |  6  |  5  |
+  Dakhoguz golug-hai
-^ Tsen Brider   |  9  |  8  |  8  |  7  |  7  |  5  |  8  |  5  |
+  Agh dakirnuz krith
-^ Nuk Honk Uruk |  6  |  6--9  |  5--8  |  5  |  6  |  6  |  6  |  5  |
+  Krith honk uruk dak kuz
+  Dakgrishuz orn pirishi
+  Orn thakuzûk' ornogsi
+  Agh dakirnuz skri
+  [Chorus:]
+  Grishnâkh sha za bha drang
+  Agh Zorg sha smaulûrz lag
+  Gaskat, akrat, fofat
+  Zi narash hazdat
+  Oi-oi-oi-oi-oi, oi-oi-oi-oi-oi
+  Gaskat, akrat, fofat
+  Zi narash hazdat
+  Skri honk uruk dak kuz
+  Dakirmuz htolut tarkniz
+  Ash norsi thakuzûk'
+  Agh dakirnuz udug
+  Udug honk ur'k dak kuz
+  Dakirmuz bamut bhîgholf kûrzhob
+  Ash dulâkuzâ tala rink
+  Agh dakirnuz ink
+  [Chorus]
+  Ink honk uruk dak kuz
+  Dak gaiguz thul-fraghum ob dak
+  Ash narzûpâkuz'
+  Agh dakirnuz krâk
+  Krâk honk uruk dak kuz
+  Dakshoguz hîmb îmob
+  Glu kulâ or ash kralt
+  Agh dakirnuz hant
+  [Chorus]
+  Hant honk uruk dak kuz
+  Daklaluz gazatûr
+  Ta ûsuz hok dakob fik
+  Agh dakirnuz krig
+  Krig honk uruk dak kuz
+  Dak gimbuz mûd nîr fird
+  Lûg krankniz tuduzul'
+  Agh dakirnuz krul
+  [Chorus]
+  Krul honk uruk dak kuz
+  Dakbrusuz throkhat narash
+  Amil honkdab thuloruz'
+  Da irnuz ash
+  Ashûk uruk dakuz
+  Da irmuz kruskâtut honk isk
+  Amilah dasog
+  Ash nîr firniz
+  [Chorus x2]
-==== The result ====
+==== Gloss and Back translation ====
 ^ Nûrlâm ^ Gloss ^ Translation back ^
 | **NUK HONK URUK** | Ten brother orc | **TEN ORC-BROTHERS** |
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 | Agh dakirnuz udug        | And 3PL=stay-PST seven            | And we stayed seven |
 | ||
-| Udug honk ur'k dak kuz | Seven brother orc we be.PST       | Seven orc-brothers we were |
+| Udug honk ur'k dak kuz | Seven brother orc we be.PST       | Seven orc-bros we were |
 | Dakirmuz bamut bhîgholf kûrzhob | 3PL=want-PST ride-INF brush-branch witch=GEN | We wanted to ride witches' broomsticks |
 | Ash dulâkuzâ tala rink | One damage-PASS-PST-3SG above lake | One was broken above the lake |
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 | Ink honk uruk dak kuz | Six brother orc we be.PST  | Six orc-brothers we were |
-| Dak gaiguz thul-fraghum ob dak | We take.off-PST foot=wrap-DEF of we | We took of our socks |
+| Dak gaiguz thul-fraghum ob dak | We take.off-PST foot=wrap-DEF of we | We took off our socks |
 | Ash narzûpâkuz'       | One NEG-ventilate-PASS-PST<del>-3SG</del> | One wasn't aerified |
 | Agh dakirnuz krâk     | And 3PL=stay-PST five      | And we stayed five |
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 | Krâk honk uruk dak kuz | Five brother orc we be.PST    | Five orc-brothers we were |
 | Dakshoguz hîmb îmob    | 3PL=drink-PST beer self=GEN   | We were drinking our own beer |
-| Glu kûzâ or ash kralt  | Piss be.PST-3SG at one barrel | In one barrel it was a piss |
+| Glu kulâ or ash kralt  | Piss be.PRES-3SG at one barrel | There is a piss in one barrel |
 | Agh dakirnuz hant      | And 3PL=stay-PST four         | And we stayed four |
 | ||
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 | Hant honk uruk dak kuz | Four brother orc we be.PST   | Four orc-brothers we were |
 | Daklaluz gazatûr       | 3PL=laugh-PST dwarf=DAT      | We have laughed at the dwarf |
-| Ta ûsuz hok dakob fik  | He think-PST joke we=GEN bad | He thought our jokes we bad |
+| Ta ûsuz hok dakob fik  | He think-PST joke we=GEN bad | He thought our jokes were bad |
 | Agh dakirnuz krig      | And 3PL=stay-PST three       | And we stayed three |
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 | Ashûk uruk dakuz            | One=all orc 1SG=be.PST | I was a lonely orc |
 | Da irmuz kruskâtut honk isk | I want-PST back=come-INF brother other | I wanted other brothers back |
-| Amilah dasog                | REL-time-ELA 1SG-seek  | Since then I'm seeking |
+| Amilah dasog                | REL-time-ELA 1SG-seek  | Since then I'm looking |
 | Ash nîr firniz              | One good wife          | For a nice wife |
 | ||
 | //[Chorus x2]// | | |
+==== Meter comparison ====
+^ Version       ^  Line length  ^^^^^^^^
+^ :::           ^  Stance  ^^^^  Chorus  ^^^^
+^ :::           ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^
+^ Zehn Orks     |  8  |  8--12  |  7--11  |  7--8  |  7  |  5  |  6  |  5  |
+^ Tsen Brider   |  9  |  8  |  8  |  7  |  7  |  5  |  8  |  5  |
+^ Nuk Honk Uruk |  6  |  6--9  |  5--8  |  5  |  6  |  6  |  6  |  5  |
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