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| ====== Dialogues of Orcs in “The Choices of Master Samwise” chapter of “The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers” ====== | ====== Dialogues of Orcs in “The Choices of Master Samwise” chapter of “The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers” ====== | ||
| - | The Chapter X: The Choices of Master Samwise of Book Three of "The Lord of the Rings" contains a famous lengthy dialogue of Shagrat, a captain at Tower of Cirith Ungol, and Gorbag, a captain at Minas Morgul (Dushgoi). Like Grishnakh in [[translations: | + | The Chapter X: The Choices of Master Samwise of Book Four of "The Lord of the Rings" contains a famous lengthy dialogue of Shagrat, a captain at Tower of Cirith Ungol, and Gorbag, a captain at Minas Morgul (Dushgoi). Like Grishnakh in [[translations: |
| The parts tricky for translations are monikers of Shelob ("Her Ladyship" | The parts tricky for translations are monikers of Shelob ("Her Ladyship" | ||
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| ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ||
| - | | Shagrat | Hola! Gorbag! What are you doing up here? Had enough of war already? | Hola! Gorbag! Fikramp mash ghu zin? Marbrusuz thlûk ghûthob dok? | | + | | Shagrat | Hola! Gorbag! What are you doing up here? Had enough of war already? | Hola! Gorbag! Fikramp mash zin talmir? Marbrusuz thlûk ghûthob dok? | |
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| | Shagrat | Orders to you. I’m in command of this pass. So speak civil. What’s your report? | Kazhum fizûr. Dathugashn za zagh. Zarzi gashn narmauharz. Figauth mash? | | | Shagrat | Orders to you. I’m in command of this pass. So speak civil. What’s your report? | Kazhum fizûr. Dathugashn za zagh. Zarzi gashn narmauharz. Figauth mash? | | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
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| ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ||
| | some Orcs | Ya hoi! Ya harri hoi! Up! Up! | Ya hoi! Ya harri hoi! Ghu! Ghu! | | | some Orcs | Ya hoi! Ya harri hoi! Up! Up! | Ya hoi! Ya harri hoi! Ghu! Ghu! | | ||
| - | | some Orcs | Now off ! The quick way. Back to the Undergate! She’ll not trouble us tonight by all the signs. | Zil bo! Hîs mongum. | + | | some Orcs | Now off ! The quick way. Back to the Undergate! She’ll not trouble us tonight by all the signs. | Zil bo! Hîs mongum. |
| | some Orcs | Ya hoi! | Ya hoi! | | | some Orcs | Ya hoi! | Ya hoi! | | ||
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| ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| - | | Shagrat | Go on, Gorbag! Yours are making more than half the noise, but let the lads play! No need to worry about Shelob for a bit, I reckon. She’s sat on a nail, it seems, and we shan’t cry about that. Didn’t you see: a nasty mess all the way back to that cursed crack of hers? If we’ve stopped it once, we’ve stopped it a hundred times. So let ’em laugh. And we’ve struck a bit of luck at last: got something that Lugbúrz wants. | Garn, Gorbag! Fib krampû makar pirob zurmumob, ap gâkh nonk tailubû! Narbolk mudhut gus Ungniz furn ash naht, da ûst. Na duzâkuz ash tazgir, bozdâ, agh daknarblord gus zîg. Finarmarhonuz: | + | | Shagrat | Go on, Gorbag! Yours are making more than half the noise, but let the lads play! No need to worry about Shelob for a bit, I reckon. She’s sat on a nail, it seems, and we shan’t cry about that. Didn’t you see: a nasty mess all the way back to that cursed crack of hers? If we’ve stopped it once, we’ve stopped it a hundred times. So let ’em laugh. And we’ve struck a bit of luck at last: got something that Lugbúrz wants. | Garn, Gorbag! Fib krampû makar pirob zurmumob, ap gâkh nonk tailubû! Narbolk mudhut gus Ungniz furn ash naht, da ûst. Na duzâkuz ash tazgir, bozdâ, agh daknarblord gus zîg. Finarmarhonuz: |
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | Don’t know till we’ve had a look. | Daknarîst zi dak honubûk. | | | Shagrat | Don’t know till we’ve had a look. | Daknarîst zi dak honubûk. | | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| - | | Shagrat | Sh, Gorbag! They may, but they’ve got eyes and ears everywhere; some among my lot, as like as not. But there’s no doubt about it, they’re troubled about something. The Nazgûl down below are, by your account; and Lugbúrz is too. Something nearly slipped. | Sh, Gorbag! Takilf, nân takbrus hont agh khlau inûgh; mûd lurgdabri, ghungsi nar. Ap nar hush gus za, takmudhâk gus ashmûd. Nazgûlum | + | | Shagrat | Sh, Gorbag! They may, but they’ve got eyes and ears everywhere; some among my lot, as like as not. But there’s no doubt about it, they’re troubled about something. The Nazgûl down below are, by your account; and Lugbúrz is too. Something nearly slipped. | Sh, Gorbag! Takilf, nân takbrus hont agh khlau inûgh; mûd lurgdabri, ghungsi nar. Ap nar hush gus za, takmudhâk gus ashmûd. Nazgûlum |
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | All right, but we’ll talk of that later. Wait till we get to the Under-way. There’s a place there where we can talk a bit, while the lads go on. | Bhog, ap dakshugbub zîgob la. Darb zi dakbarl Latamûlumu. Ash in kulâ zîgin amin dakpâsh shugbut ash naht, kusn nonk drufrunû. | | | Shagrat | All right, but we’ll talk of that later. Wait till we get to the Under-way. There’s a place there where we can talk a bit, while the lads go on. | Bhog, ap dakshugbub zîgob la. Darb zi dakbarl Latamûlumu. Ash in kulâ zîgin amin dakpâsh shugbut ash naht, kusn nonk drufrunû. | | ||
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| Orc commanders go to a safe place where they think they can't be heared. | Orc commanders go to a safe place where they think they can't be heared. | ||
| ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ||
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| - | | Shagrat | You should try being up here with Shelob for company. | Fimaug tuglut kulat ghu zin Ungniz sha shalkûr. | | + | | Shagrat | You should try being up here with Shelob for company. | Fimaug tuglut kulat zin talir Ungniz sha shalkûr. | |
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | It’s going well, they say. | Za frun bhog, tak gashn. | | | Shagrat | It’s going well, they say. | Za frun bhog, tak gashn. | | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | Ah! Like old times. | Ah! Oth ilkû.| | | Shagrat | Ah! Like old times. | Ah! Oth ilkû.| | ||
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| | Shagrat | About an hour ago, just before you saw us. A message came: //Nazgûl uneasy. Spies feared on Stairs. Double vigilance. Patrol to head of Stairs.// I came at once. | Kurn ash sib krut, ûnarz ik fihonuzak. Ash mont skâtuzâ: //Nazgûl naruls. Nûsh furgâkû Dilmir. Krularz dirnurm. Tudukh kazu Dilmob.// Daskâtuz asharz. | | | Shagrat | About an hour ago, just before you saw us. A message came: //Nazgûl uneasy. Spies feared on Stairs. Double vigilance. Patrol to head of Stairs.// I came at once. | Kurn ash sib krut, ûnarz ik fihonuzak. Ash mont skâtuzâ: //Nazgûl naruls. Nûsh furgâkû Dilmir. Krularz dirnurm. Tudukh kazu Dilmob.// Daskâtuz asharz. | | ||
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| - | | Shagrat | The Eye was busy elsewhere, I suppose. Big things going on away west, they say. | Hontum kuz kramg inisk, daton. Bild dau frunû | + | | Shagrat | The Eye was busy elsewhere, I suppose. Big things going on away west, they say. | Hontum kuz kramg inisk, daton. Bild dau frunû |
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | That’s enough! Don’t try and teach me my job. We were awake all right. We knew there were funny things going on. | Thlûk! Nardamp agh nargustiz buldab. Dak kuz riloruga thanûk. Dakîstuz bild glaz frunuzû zîgin. | | Shagrat | That’s enough! Don’t try and teach me my job. We were awake all right. We knew there were funny things going on. | Thlûk! Nardamp agh nargustiz buldab. Dak kuz riloruga thanûk. Dakîstuz bild glaz frunuzû zîgin. | ||
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| | Shagrat | Yes, very funny: lights and shouting and all. But Shelob was on the go. My lads saw her and her Sneak. | Akh, sharz glaz: thîr agh goshnaut agh ûk. Ap Ungniz kuzâ ukhumir. Nonkdab kinuzûtan agh Hlighauknab. | | | Shagrat | Yes, very funny: lights and shouting and all. But Shelob was on the go. My lads saw her and her Sneak. | Akh, sharz glaz: thîr agh goshnaut agh ûk. Ap Ungniz kuzâ ukhumir. Nonkdab kinuzûtan agh Hlighauknab. | | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| - | | Shagrat | You must have seen him: little thin black fellow; like a spider himself, or perhaps more like a starved frog. He’s been here before. Came //out// of Lugbúrz the first time, years ago, and we had word from High Up to let him pass. He’s been up the Stairs once or twice since then, but we’ve left him alone: seems to have some understanding with Her Ladyship. I suppose he’s no good to eat: she wouldn’t worry about words from High Up. But a fine guard you keep in the valley: he was up here a day before all this racket. Early last night we saw him. Anyway my lads reported that Her Ladyship was having some fun, and that seemed good enough for me, until the message came. I thought her Sneak had brought her a toy, or that you’d perhaps sent her a present, a prisoner of war or something. I don’t interfere when she’s playing. Nothing gets by Shelob when she’s on the hunt. | Fimauguz kinutan: shauk mor boh mik; îm ash ungsi, ogh falgarz makar oth ash kauk harbuga. Takuz zin dok. Taskâtuz // | + | | Shagrat | You must have seen him: little thin black fellow; like a spider himself, or perhaps more like a starved frog. He’s been here before. Came //out// of Lugbúrz the first time, years ago, and we had word from High Up to let him pass. He’s been up the Stairs once or twice since then, but we’ve left him alone: seems to have some understanding with Her Ladyship. I suppose he’s no good to eat: she wouldn’t worry about words from High Up. But a fine guard you keep in the valley: he was up here a day before all this racket. Early last night we saw him. Anyway my lads reported that Her Ladyship was having some fun, and that seemed good enough for me, until the message came. I thought her Sneak had brought her a toy, or that you’d perhaps sent her a present, a prisoner of war or something. I don’t interfere when she’s playing. Nothing gets by Shelob when she’s on the hunt. | Fimauguz kinutan: shauk mor boh mik; îm ash ungsi, ogh falgarz makar oth ash kauk harbuga. Takuz zin dok. Taskâtuz // |
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| | Shagrat | Ah well, but she got him in the end, didn’t she? | Ah, bhog, ap na snabuzan gorzarz, mar? | | | Shagrat | Ah well, but she got him in the end, didn’t she? | Ah, bhog, ap na snabuzan gorzarz, mar? | | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Gorbag | Who cut the cords she’d put round him, Shagrat? Same one as cut the web. Didn’t you see that? And who stuck a pin into Her Ladyship? Same one, I reckon. And where is he? Where is he, Shagrat? | Mash grishuz sorm na gaithuz ta kurn, Shagrat? Zash ash zash grishuz nazbum. Narmarfikin zîg? Agh mash ghrûthuz ash tazg Nab Dûrurmnizishi? | | Gorbag | Who cut the cords she’d put round him, Shagrat? Same one as cut the web. Didn’t you see that? And who stuck a pin into Her Ladyship? Same one, I reckon. And where is he? Where is he, Shagrat? | Mash grishuz sorm na gaithuz ta kurn, Shagrat? Zash ash zash grishuz nazbum. Narmarfikin zîg? Agh mash ghrûthuz ash tazg Nab Dûrurmnizishi? | ||
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| | Shagrat | And what is it then? | Agh dai za kul mash? | | | Shagrat | And what is it then? | Agh dai za kul mash? | | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
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| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | Now, now. I have my orders. And it’s more than my belly’s worth, or yours, to break ’em. //Any// trespasser found by the guard is to be held at the tower. Prisoner is to be stripped. Full description of every article, garment, weapon, letter, ring, or trinket is to be sent to Lugbúrz at once, and to Lugbúrz //only//. And the prisoner is to be kept safe and intact, under pain of death for every member of the guard, until He sends or comes Himself. That’s plain enough, and that’s what I’m going to do. | Zil, zil. Dabrus kazhumdab. Agh za makar snû tark dab thûnob, ogh fib, shotatul. //Kon// rogdal gimbaga dirnumirzi kulâ fîthat lugumor. Glûr kulâ gaigat. Dharburmgûk ûgh bargob, fathob, yakob, zarmbontob, nazgob, ogh nîdob kulû hîstat Lugbûrzu rad, agh Lugbûrzu //tug//. Agh glûrum kulâ fîthat bharnûrz agh fol, lata hrizg gurzob brunalûrûgh dirnumob, amilu Ta hîstub ogh skâtub Îm. Zîg gok thlûk, agh zîg amash dakramputh. | | | Shagrat | Now, now. I have my orders. And it’s more than my belly’s worth, or yours, to break ’em. //Any// trespasser found by the guard is to be held at the tower. Prisoner is to be stripped. Full description of every article, garment, weapon, letter, ring, or trinket is to be sent to Lugbúrz at once, and to Lugbúrz //only//. And the prisoner is to be kept safe and intact, under pain of death for every member of the guard, until He sends or comes Himself. That’s plain enough, and that’s what I’m going to do. | Zil, zil. Dabrus kazhumdab. Agh za makar snû tark dab thûnob, ogh fib, shotatul. //Kon// rogdal gimbaga dirnumirzi kulâ fîthat lugumor. Glûr kulâ gaigat. Dharburmgûk ûgh bargob, fathob, yakob, zarmbontob, nazgob, ogh nîdob kulû hîstat Lugbûrzu rad, agh Lugbûrzu //tug//. Agh glûrum kulâ fîthat bharnûrz agh fol, lata hrizg gurzob brunalûrûgh dirnumob, amilu Ta hîstub ogh skâtub Îm. Zîg gok thlûk, agh zîg amash dakramputh. | | ||
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| | Shagrat | No, none of that. He’s for Lugbúrz, I tell you. He’s wanted safe and whole. | Nar, narash zîgob. Ta Lugbûrzûr, | | Shagrat | No, none of that. He’s for Lugbúrz, I tell you. He’s wanted safe and whole. | Nar, narash zîgob. Ta Lugbûrzûr, | ||
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
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| Sam realizes, Frodo is still alive. | Sam realizes, Frodo is still alive. | ||
| ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ||
| - | | Shagrat | Garn! She’s got more than one poison. When she’s hunting, she just gives ’em a dab in the neck and they go as limp as boned fish, and then she has her way with them. D’you remember old Ufthak? We lost him for days. Then we found him in a corner; hanging up he was, but he was wide awake and glaring. How we laughed! She’d forgotten him, maybe, but we didn’t touch him -- no good interfering with Her. Nar -- this little filth, he’ll wake up, in a few hours; and beyond feeling a bit sick for a bit, he’ll be all right. Or would be, if Lugbúrz would let him alone. And of course, beyond wondering where he is and what’s happened to him. | Na brus makar snû ash holm. Amil na farb, na throgul tug ash plup mâsumu agh takukh zash mûlk zash skab takhaga, agh la na brus mong nab taksha. Fimarbhol kû Ufthak? Dakbûfuzan furn mûd ârsh. La dak gimbuzan bonzor; runkug | + | | Shagrat | Garn! She’s got more than one poison. When she’s hunting, she just gives ’em a dab in the neck and they go as limp as boned fish, and then she has her way with them. D’you remember old Ufthak? We lost him for days. Then we found him in a corner; hanging up he was, but he was wide awake and glaring. How we laughed! She’d forgotten him, maybe, but we didn’t touch him -- no good interfering with Her. Nar -- this little filth, he’ll wake up, in a few hours; and beyond feeling a bit sick for a bit, he’ll be all right. Or would be, if Lugbúrz would let him alone. And of course, beyond wondering where he is and what’s happened to him. | Na brus makar snû ash holm. Amil na farb, na throgul tug ash plup mâsumu agh takukh zash mûlk zash skab takhaga, agh la na brus mong nab taksha. Fimarbhol kû Ufthak? Dakbûfuzan furn mûd ârsh. La dak gimbuzan bonzor; runkug |
| | Gorbag | | Gorbag | ||
| | Shagrat | There’s going to be no fun, I tell you. And he’s got to be kept safe, or we’re all as good as dead. | Kuluthâ nar zrî, dagashnam. Agh tamaug kulut fîthat bharnûrz, ogh dakûk kul ghuralsi. | | | Shagrat | There’s going to be no fun, I tell you. And he’s got to be kept safe, or we’re all as good as dead. | Kuluthâ nar zrî, dagashnam. Agh tamaug kulut fîthat bharnûrz, ogh dakûk kul ghuralsi. | | ||
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| Orcs return to take Frodo' | Orcs return to take Frodo' | ||
| ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ^ Character ^ English ^ Nûrlâm ^ | ||
| - | | Shagrat | That’s what I’m going to do. Put him right up in the top chamber. | Zîg amash dakramputh. Gaithatan tîr ghu ronkumor talûrz. | | + | | Shagrat | That’s what I’m going to do. Put him right up in the top chamber. | Zîg amash dakramputh. Gaithatan tîr talmu ronkumor talûrz. | |
| - | | Gorbag | + | | Gorbag |
| - | | Shagrat | He’s going out of harm’s way, I tell you. See? He’s precious. I don’t trust all my lads, and none of yours; nor you neither, when you’re mad for fun. He’s going where I want him, and where you won’t come, if you don’t keep civil. Up to the top, I say. He’ll be safe there. | Ta ukhat mongah rulurmob, dagashnam. Marhon? Ta turkûrz. Danarkân nonkdabûk, agh nar ob fib; agh danarkânam shuz, amil fi trîn zrîzûr. Ta ukhat amin dahizan, agh amin finarskâtub, | + | | Shagrat | He’s going out of harm’s way, I tell you. See? He’s precious. I don’t trust all my lads, and none of yours; nor you neither, when you’re mad for fun. He’s going where I want him, and where you won’t come, if you don’t keep civil. Up to the top, I say. He’ll be safe there. | Ta ukhat mongah rulurmob, dagashnam. Marhon? Ta turkûrz. Danarkân nonkdabûk, agh nar ob fib; agh danarkânam shuz, amil fi trîn zrîzûr. Ta ukhat amin dahizan, agh amin finarskâtub, |