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 ====== Elven languages ====== ====== Elven languages ======
-Many Black Speech and Orcish words incorporate roots taken from languages of Elves. While Quenya and Sindarin are well-known some other tongues (specially older in external history) mentioned at this wiki may confuse a reader. This page will shortly overview them.+Many Black Speech and Orcish words incorporate roots taken from languages of Elves((and some quotes from Lhammas and PE17 suggest that vice versa was also rarely but true)). While Quenya and Sindarin are well-known some other tongues (specially older in external history) mentioned at this wiki may confuse a reader. This page will shortly overview them.
  
 ^ Language ^ Description ^ Links ^ ^ Language ^ Description ^ Links ^
-| Doriathrin | Language of Doriath, The Hidden Kingdom of Beleriand, in the First Age. Almost all examples are from early drafts and Etymology chapter of The Lost Road and Other Writings. In Silmarillion it's considered as archaic dialect of Old Sindarin | [[tg>Doriathrin|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/doriath.htm|Ardalambion]] |+| Common Eldarin((or just Eldarin)) | Evolved from Primitive Elvish. Was the language of all elves of the West before their division | [[wp>Common_Eldarin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Common_Eldarin|Tolkien Gateway]] | 
 +| Doriathrin | Language of Doriath, The Hidden Kingdom of Beleriand, in the First Age. Almost all examples are from early drafts and Etymology chapter of The Lost Road and Other Writings. In Silmarillion it's considered as archaic, conservative dialect of Old Sindarin | [[tg>Doriathrin|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/doriath.htm|Ardalambion]] |
 | Gnomish | also Goldogrin. Invented by Tolkien for the first drafts back to 1917. Lexicon is published in  Parma Eldalamberon 11 and in shorter form in appendices to The Book of Lost Tales. By 1930 evolved into Noldorin. |[[wp>Goldogrin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Gnomish|Tolkien Gateway]] | | Gnomish | also Goldogrin. Invented by Tolkien for the first drafts back to 1917. Lexicon is published in  Parma Eldalamberon 11 and in shorter form in appendices to The Book of Lost Tales. By 1930 evolved into Noldorin. |[[wp>Goldogrin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Gnomish|Tolkien Gateway]] |
 | Ilkorin | in early drafts was the language of Teleri elves left in Beleriand, later replaced by Noldorin and then by Sindarin in external history. May remain as "northern dialect" of Sindarin. | [[wp>Ilkorin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Ilkorin|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/ilkorin.htm|Ardalambion]] | | Ilkorin | in early drafts was the language of Teleri elves left in Beleriand, later replaced by Noldorin and then by Sindarin in external history. May remain as "northern dialect" of Sindarin. | [[wp>Ilkorin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Ilkorin|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/ilkorin.htm|Ardalambion]] |
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 | Quenya | Ancient tongue common for all elves. One of the best-developed languages of elves. By the time of The Lord of the Rings (Third Age) it became a scholar language not used in colloquial speech like it was the Latin in Middle Ages. The grammar of language was still changing after the publication of LOTR until 1973. Has two major dialects: Vanyarin (language of elves of Valinor, stayed to live there) and Noldorin (or Exilic) Quenya, a speech of elves returned to Middle-Earth. Noldorin Quenya was replaced by Sindarin in real usage during the First Age, while Vanyarin Quenya remains a spoken language of Valinor. | [[wp>Quenya|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Quenya|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/quenya.htm|Ardalambion]] | | Quenya | Ancient tongue common for all elves. One of the best-developed languages of elves. By the time of The Lord of the Rings (Third Age) it became a scholar language not used in colloquial speech like it was the Latin in Middle Ages. The grammar of language was still changing after the publication of LOTR until 1973. Has two major dialects: Vanyarin (language of elves of Valinor, stayed to live there) and Noldorin (or Exilic) Quenya, a speech of elves returned to Middle-Earth. Noldorin Quenya was replaced by Sindarin in real usage during the First Age, while Vanyarin Quenya remains a spoken language of Valinor. | [[wp>Quenya|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Quenya|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/quenya.htm|Ardalambion]] |
 | Sindarin | Language of "modern" elves of Middle-Earth. While it was born during the First Age (merging Exilic Quenya and Ilkorin) it survived as colloquial language by the time of The Lord of the Rings. In early drafts (before 1940s) was called Noldorin. | [[wp>Sindarin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Sindarin|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/sindarin.htm|Ardalambion]] | | Sindarin | Language of "modern" elves of Middle-Earth. While it was born during the First Age (merging Exilic Quenya and Ilkorin) it survived as colloquial language by the time of The Lord of the Rings. In early drafts (before 1940s) was called Noldorin. | [[wp>Sindarin|Wikipedia]],\\ [[tg>Sindarin|Tolkien Gateway]],\\ [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/sindarin.htm|Ardalambion]] |
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 +Roots from "Etymologies" chapter of "The Lost Road and Other Writings" are often cited either as Common Eldarin or Primitive Elvish, but it is not always right. Sometimes Tolkien cited actual Primitive Elvish forms and they differ from corresponding root. "Etymologies" is more like Proto-Indo-European language, you can trace words of various languages of same family to it, but it doesn't mean that PIE words really existed in such form.
  
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