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-===== Full Ring Verse =====+<WRAP center round important 60%> 
 +This article is not about Nûrlâm but about influential work.  
 +</WRAP> 
 + 
 +====== Full Ring Verse by Elerrina ======
 Tolkien left us translation of the [[ring-verse|Ring inscription]] into Black Speech. The whole verse was however longer: Tolkien left us translation of the [[ring-verse|Ring inscription]] into Black Speech. The whole verse was however longer:
      
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   One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,   One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
   One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,   One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
-  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie+  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie 
      
-There was a translation by Elerrina ([[abbreviations|EL]]) in journals "Quettar" #16 (pp. 6–7, 1982) and "Vinyar Tengwar" #13 (pp. 13–15, 1990). It was not flawless but became the additional word base for later Black Speech [[Black_Speech_dialects|dialects]]. +There was a translation by Elerrina ([[abbreviations|EL]]) in journals "Quettar" #16 (pp. 6--7, 1982) and "Vinyar Tengwar" #13 (pp. 13--15, 1990). It was not flawless but became the additional word base for later Black Speech [[Black_Speech_dialects|dialects]]. 
   Gakh Nazgi Ilid/Albai/Golug durub-uuri lata-nuut.   Gakh Nazgi Ilid/Albai/Golug durub-uuri lata-nuut.
   Udu takob-ishiz gund-ob Gazat-shakh-uuri.   Udu takob-ishiz gund-ob Gazat-shakh-uuri.
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   Seven for Dwarf-lords in theirs of stone    Seven for Dwarf-lords in theirs of stone 
   Nine for mortal men doomed to die   Nine for mortal men doomed to die
-  One only for Dark Lord in his throne +  One only for Dark Lord in this his throne 
-  In Mordor land where Shadows lie+  In Mordor land where Shadows lie hidden
   [One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,   [One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
   One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them]   One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them]
-  In Mordor land where Shadows lie+  In Mordor land where Shadows lie hidden
  
-This translations doesn't satisfy [[nurlam_objectives|objectives of Nûrlâm]], so we need to translate following words into the Black Speech:+Below is the list of words borrowed into other [[Black Speech dialects]] from Elerrina's translation. Some of them were changed, but here only original Elerrina's forms are presented.
 ^ English ^ Black Speech ^ Etymology and Comments ^ ^ English ^ Black Speech ^ Etymology and Comments ^
-| dark | bûrz | EL, from //burzum// (darkness) |+| dark | bûrz | from TK "Lugbûrz" (Dark Tower), from BS "burzum" (darkness) |
 | die | mat- | EL | | die | mat- | EL |
 | doomed | dûmpuga | EL, either from Etym. "MBAD" written reversed ("MB" is one letter in Elvish writing systems), see also Quenya "umbar", or just stylized English word (possibly both) | | doomed | dûmpuga | EL, either from Etym. "MBAD" written reversed ("MB" is one letter in Elvish writing systems), see also Quenya "umbar", or just stylized English word (possibly both) |
 | dwarf | gazat | EL, from Khuzdul "khazad" (dwarves) | | dwarf | gazat | EL, from Khuzdul "khazad" (dwarves) |
 | elven | golug | [[abbreviations|TK]]((Tolkien)), [[angband_orcish|Angband Orkish]] "golug" (Noldor elves) from ÑGOLOD, Noldorin "golodh" (one of the wise folk, Gnome((Elves were called Gnomes in early works))) | | elven | golug | [[abbreviations|TK]]((Tolkien)), [[angband_orcish|Angband Orkish]] "golug" (Noldor elves) from ÑGOLOD, Noldorin "golodh" (one of the wise folk, Gnome((Elves were called Gnomes in early works))) |
-| ::: | ilid | EL, from "ÉLED" ("Star-folk", "Firstborn", Eldar, departed elves) |+| ::: | ilid | EL, from "ÉLED" ("Star-folk", "Firstborn", Eldar, departed elves); may be not suitable for elves of Middle-Earth |
 | ::: | albai | EL | | ::: | albai | EL |
 | for | ûr | EL, dative case suffix | | for | ûr | EL, dative case suffix |
-| hall | ru | from Shadowlandian ([[abbreviations|LOS]]) and Horngoth Orkish, omitted in original translation by Elerrina | +| hall | --- | omitted in original translation by Elerrina, "ru" in Shadowlandian ([[abbreviations|LOS]]) and Horngoth Orkish | 
-| king | durub | EL, translated as //rulers// from "durbat" (to rule) |+| king | durub | EL, literally translated as //rulers// from "durbat" (to rule) |
 | land | uzg | EL | | land | uzg | EL |
-| lie | kât-  | LOS, from Quenya "caita" < KAY | +| lie hidden | fauth- | EL, probably from Gnomish "fuitha" (to hide, lay up in secret) | 
-| ::: | fauth- | original translation by Elerrina was "fauth-" (lie hidden) | +| lord | shakh | EL, Persian word for "king" | 
-| lord | goth | Sindarin, from Melkor's epithetic name Morgoth (Dark Enemy or Black Foe) | +| man, men | shara | EL, from Isengard Orkish "sharkû" (old man) |
-| ::: | shakh | EL, Persian word for "king" | +
-| man, men | tark | TK, applies only to Númenóreans | +
-| :::      | shara | EL, from Isengard Orkish "sharkû" (old man) | +
-| Mordor | Uzgbûrz | this name means "Dark Land" in Sindarin, was not translated by Elerrina, therefore I translated this into Black Speech |+
 | mortal | matûrz | EL | | mortal | matûrz | EL |
 | nine | krith | EL | | nine | krith | EL |
 | of | ob | EL, genitive/possessive case suffix | | of | ob | EL, genitive/possessive case suffix |
 | only | tug | EL, absent in original English translation, put into "One **(only)** for the Dark Lord on (this) his dark throne" | | only | tug | EL, absent in original English translation, put into "One **(only)** for the Dark Lord on (this) his dark throne" |
-| seven | udug | EL "udu", from OT- > Noldorin "odog", spelling normalized according to Nûrlâm rules | +| seven | udu | EL, from Etym. "OT-" > Noldorin "odog" | 
-| ::: | udu | EL, from OT- > Noldorin "odog" | +| shadow | burgûl | EL, from "bûrz" + "gûl" (dark spirit, ghost) |
-| shadow | | | +
-| ::: | burgûl | EL, from "bûrz" + "gûl" (dark spirit, ghost) |+
 | sky | nût | EL | | sky | nût | EL |
 | stone | gund | EL, from Etym. "GOND", compare with "Gondor" meaning "Stone Land" in Sindarin or "Gondolin" | | stone | gund | EL, from Etym. "GOND", compare with "Gondor" meaning "Stone Land" in Sindarin or "Gondolin" |
-| their | ulub  | LOS, from TK "ul" (them) and EL "ob" (of) | +| their | takob | EL, original translation was "tak-ob" |
-| :::   | takob | EL, original translation was "tak-ob" |+
 | this | za | EL, absent in original English translation, put into "One (only) for the Dark Lord on (**this**) his dark throne" | | this | za | EL, absent in original English translation, put into "One (only) for the Dark Lord on (**this**) his dark throne" |
 | three | gakh | EL| | three | gakh | EL|
-| throne | | | +| throne | ulîma | EL |
-| ::: | ulîma | EL |+
 | under | lata | EL | | under | lata | EL |
-| where | amin | relative prefix "a-" (EL) + interrogative prefix "m-" (EL) + "in" < Quenya "en" (there, look!) < Etym. "EN-" (over there, yonder) | +| where | amal | EL | 
-| :::   | amal | EL |+ 
 +These translations doesn't satisfy [[nurlam_objectives|objectives of Nûrlâm]]. So check  
 +[[Full Ring Verse in Nûrlam]] article for correct Nûrlâm variant.
  
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-==== Links ====+===== Links =====
  
   - One Ring at [[wp>One_Ring|Wikipedia]]   - One Ring at [[wp>One_Ring|Wikipedia]]
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   - [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/orkish.htm|Analysis by Helge Kåre Fauskanger]]   - [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/orkish.htm|Analysis by Helge Kåre Fauskanger]]
   - [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/blackspeech.htm|Analysis by Craig Daniel]]   - [[https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/blackspeech.htm|Analysis by Craig Daniel]]
-  - [[http://blackspeech.ru/Appleyard.txt|Analysis by A. Appleyard]] +  - [[http://blackspeech.de/Appleyard.txt|Analysis by A. Appleyard]] 
-  - [[http://blackspeech.ru/board/viewtopic.php?id=47|Full Ring Verse translations]]+  - [[https://zhaaburi.wordpress.com/ring-verses/|Collection of full Ring Verse translations by Björn Axén]] 
 +  - [[http://blackspeech.de/board/viewtopic.php?id=47|Full Ring Verse translations]] 
 +  - [[Full Ring Verse in Nûrlam]]
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